Wednesday, May 29, 2013

Bhakti Caru Swami is giving ritvik style initiations?

BCS: Another question here comes to my mind. You want to take initiation from me, but how often we will meet? I think I came to Germany after four years? The Prabhupada installation was? Five years, okey, yes, five years. So, if I come after five years, what will you do for those five years? The question naturally arises, then Maharaja, why are you giving initiation?
Well, although I try to discourage devotees who are not in close contact with me, to take intiation from me, but like in your case you are just insisting that you want to take intiation from me.  So, I had to agree.
I agreed with one confidence.  That Iskcon is there to take care of you.  And I am giving you intiation on behalf of Iskcon, on behalf of Prabhupada.  When you came to Iskcon, you came to Srila Prabhupada.  

What attracted you to Iskcon? Question (for their translator): what attracted them to Iskcon ? … Yes, but how they get to know about that? …  Those devotees, what did they give you? Did they give you Prabhupada’s books? Actually what attracted you to spiritual life is Srila Prabhupada. The devotees you met, they are Prabhupada’s devotees, Iskcon devotees means Prabhupada’s devotees. The books that you read are Prabhupada’s books. You are being sheltered by Prabhupada’s arrangement, in the form of Isckon.
So, the point is, initially you came to Krishna Consciousness being attracted by Srila Prabhupada and his arrangement. And I came in the scene much later. And then you decided to accept me as your Guru. Then what is my duty as your Guru? To connect you to Srila Prabhupada.
[PADA: The only problem is that when we say these things, the GBC gurus have us banned, beat and assassinated.]
The point is: "Always try to remember that Srila Prabhupada is your main spiritual shelter."  
[PADA: Good! We have forced them to say the same things we have said all along, by our pressing them for 35 years!]
And Guru’s business is meant to be your transparent via-medium.  And generally the Guru acts as a transparent via-medium between the disciple and Krishna.  But here I am acting as a transparent via-medium between you all and Srila Prabhupada. And you stay fixed up in Iskcon.  Because, you see, you will hardly have my association. What is going to happen to your spiritual life, if you are simply depending upon me? But if you are properly situated in Iskcon, then your spiritual life will be safe. Is it clear ? Do you want to make spiritual advancement? Then become nicely situated within Iskcon.
[PADA: Right, you might not ever see your so-called GBC guru, who is now acting as a ritvik, your real link is the books and program of Srila Prabhupada.]
And I am simply a representative of Iskcon. As a spiritual master my role is to represent Iskcon.  Today I am giving initiation because Iskcon has approved me, because Iskcon has authorized me. Tomorrow if Iskcon says: “you stop giving initiation”, then I have to stop giving initiation. That clearly indicates I am not giving initiation on my own capacity. I am giving initiation on the authrority of Iskcon. This is the point about surrender. Surrender to Iskcon. Because Iskcon is Prabhupada’s divine arrangement to spread Krishna Consciousness all over the world for ten thousand years to come.  

[PADA: Right, us GBC gurus are dropping like flies, falling down and some are dying, so better take shelter of Srila Prabhupada, as PADA has said all along.]

That arrangement is Prabhupada’s arrangement, Chaitanya Mahaprabhus arrangement. Become a very, very dedicated part of this wonderful arrangement by Srila Prabhupada. And your commitment to Srila Prabhuapda will be shown by how sincerely you are practising the process.  What is the process? The process is to chant at least sixteen rounds every day. So, you are ready to take the vow? You are ready to chant sixteen rounds every day? Throughout your life and no deviation, and no blooping, no leaving the movement?  

And also follow the four regulative principles. Become very, very fixed up on these two things. Follow the four regulative principles very strictly. Chant sixteen rounds minimum. And read Prabhupada’s books every day.  Why is reading Srila Prabhupada’s books so important? When you read Prabhupada’s books, Prabhupada is guiding you and Prabhupada’s vani is manifest in his books. Did you ever try this?  You have any difficulty, you are in a difficult situation and you just opened Prabhupada’s books to direct you as if Prabhupada is directing you. giving you the answer. Prabhupada is still here in the form of his vani. Prabhupada’s vani is manifest in the form of his books.

[PADA: Prabhupada is present in his vani, hmm, this man has become PADA's parrot!]
Okey, you will chant sixteen rounds of the maha-mantra every day ?  What is the Hare Krishna mantra?  The Hare Krishna mantra is Krishna Himself.  What is the manifestation of the Deity from? The manifestation of the Deity is from the earth. (Madhavi, take care of them) Right? So, manifestation of Krishna in the form of earth.  You know about the five elements ?  What are the five elements? Five elements are water, fire, earth, air, ether. Now, Krishna manifest Himself also in ether. What is that ether manifestation of of Krishna ? From ether comes what?  From ether comes sound.  So through ether Krishna manifested in the form of Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.  So this Hare Krishna mantra is Krishna Himself. But there are offenses to the maha-mantra. There are ten offenses. And if those offenses are there, then Krishna does not manifest. You know about the ten offenses ?
Feder, what is the first offense ? Feder… (to translator) You don’t have to repeat, you can simply say : Yes, that’s right.
What is the second offense, Natasha ?
What is the third offense, Feder ? Third offense ? … No, third offense is to disobey the instructions of the spiritual master.
Fourth offense? Natasha? … He just mentioned it.  He got the fourth offense mixed up with the third.  Okey? okey…  (laughter)
Okey, Feder, fifth offense ?  You are feeling nervous?  Okey, let’s see what according to your calculation
Fifth offense.  What is the fifth offense ?
Okey, close.
Sixth offense, Natasha? Okey, memorise them properly, yes?
Seventh offense, Feder?
Seventh offense is to commit sinful activities on the strength of the chanting.  So, now he remembers?
Eight offense, Natasha? Karma kanda… (Guru Maharaja Laughs) Okey.
Nith offense, Feder?  You just said it.  “To instruct the glories of the Holy Name to a faithless person.  And tenth offense, Natasha?
To maintain material attachments.
And it is also an offense to chant inattentively.
Okey, memorize these ten offenses very nicely.  I should have told you this yesterday.  Because it is important to protect yourself from committing these offenses against the Holy Name.
Okey, now you can sit here and do the acaman and somebody, some initiated devotees can put on their beads…  Ramananda, you can put it on.  Or, let Namamrita put it on Feder…
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Krishna.  So, now we will do acaman.  Achaman means cleansing the vocal channel.  So, you have achaman cups.  So, you take water in your hand and wash it, both hands.  First right hand, take, okey…  Then you take some water on your palm and drink it from the base of your palm, saying Om Sri Keshavaya Namah.  Okey, wash your hand.  Then take water again and drink it by saying , then say Om Sri Narayana Namah.  Then take it again and drink it again and say Om Sri Nararyana Namah. Then wash your hands and say after me:
Om apavitra pavitro va sarvah vastan
yasmared pundarikaksam apandarah sucih
Sri Vishnu Sri Vishnu Sri Vishnu
This mantra means : whether one is impure or pure, in whatever condition one may be in, when one remembers the lotus eyed Supreme Personality of Krishna. So, you understood what is the best way to get purified ?  Feder ? But what did the mantra say ?  The mantra said that whether one is pure or impure, externally or internally, if he remembers Krishna, one becomes purified. Right? Therefore always remember Krishna.
So, now you can come, both of you. So, Feder, what are the four regulative principles ? .. So, you take a vow to follow the four regulative principles?  Yes? Okey. And how many rounds will you chant a day ? Minimum sixteen rounds. Okey, and also I will request you to take a vow to never, ever leave Iskcon which is the shelter of Srila Prabhupada.
On behalf of Srila Prabhupada I give you your spiritual name, Parama Karuna Dasa, which means the servant of the All Merciful Supreme Personality Of Godhead, Krishna. And how many rounds of the Hare Krishna Mantra you will chant.
Natasha, what are the four regulative principles ? And you take a vow to follow these four regulative principles? And how many rounds of this Hare Krishna mantra you will chant? So, your name on behalf of Srila Prabhupada I am giving as Nama Chintamani dasi, which means the Holy Name Which is the Fulfiller of all desires.  Hare Krishna.  Now you offer obeisances to Srila Prabhupada, the Deities and the devotees. Offer obeisances to Mother Dina Santara as the GBC of this zone.
[PADA: BCS is saying similar ideas to what we said all along, and this proves that ISKCON is gradually going ritvik. ys pd]

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